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What (parts of) RH albums have flawed structure rather than flawed songs?
#1
Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:37 AM
For example, I think Pablo Honey is the worst RH album, but for entirely different reasons -- I can't think of any way to improve the flow of the album, which I think is perfectly fine. I just find most of the songs cheesy.
HTTT is a much better album, with some of RH's best moments, but I think it jumps too much for its own good, with its rock song -> electronica -> piano ballad -> electronica -> rock song like structure. It feels like an album that tries to be varied in a slightly forced way, and I'd like a more natural progression from start to end. This would probably involve losing a few tracks, which I'd be perfectly okay with.
TKOL has pretty damn strong song selection, and they are structured beautifully. Wouldn't change a thing, though it's definately short as a whole.
Kid A is one of those albums where the songflow is so awesome it arguably contributes more to the album experience than the individual songs themselves. The best flowing RH album IMO.
Amnesiac has a more contrasty and experimental flow than Kid A, that still works well and feels whole. But I always thought Morning Bell/Amnesac is sandwiched in a wierd spot, and I tend to skip it.
I have only one problem with In Rainbows: It's too mellow in the middle between Wierd Fishes and Jigsaw, and could use one more upbeat song thrown in. Of course, all the material on this album is absolutely stellar in its own right.
OKC is perfect for me until the very end; I think Lucky and The Tourist are somewhat similiar and drags the album's energy too much down before it ends. Yes, I am probably alone in thinking this, and no, I have no idea how to fix that, except removing The Tourist, which is actually not a bad choice since Lucky is a better song anyway and the album is somewhat long.
#2
Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:00 AM
OKC is perfect for me until the very end; I think Lucky and The Tourist are somewhat similiar and drags the album's energy too much down before it ends. Yes, I am probably alone in thinking this, and no, I have no idea how to fix that, except removing The Tourist, which is actually not a bad choice since Lucky is a better song anyway and the album is somewhat long.
Well for starters, The Tourist is an epic ending to the album. Lucky would be a drag ending. I've always thought that Lucky brings the album full circle and The Tourist wraps it up. Perfection.
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#3
Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:38 AM
I have only one problem with In Rainbows: It's too mellow in the middle between Wierd Fishes and Jigsaw, and could use one more upbeat song thrown in. Of course, all the material on this album is absolutely stellar in its own right.
What??? All I Need and Reckoner are the centerpieces in the sence that both have greaaat climaxes! Reckoner is the highlight obvioulsy and it doesnt feel mellow at all, why do you want a upbeat song if you have all those beautiful and stellar arrangements? (including Faust Arp)
#4
Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:29 PM
lolwut?TKOL has pretty damn strong song selection, and they are structured beautifully. Wouldn't change a thing, though it's definately short as a whole.
TKOL is one of the worst RH albums both in terms of songs and its structure as an album, although I do quite like the tension/release thing they did.
Fitter Happier is the worst thing Radiohead have ever done to an album, completely kills the flow of OKC for me. I also agree that Lucky->The Tourist is a pretty limp ending for the album.
Kid A and In Rainbows are more or less perfect structurally, although I would have liked the first few seconds of IR to sound different.
HTTT is a mess but that's kind of the point isn't it?
#5
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:02 PM
lolwut?
TKOL is one of the worst RH albums both in terms of songs and its structure as an album, although I do quite like the tension/release thing they did.
Fitter Happier is the worst thing Radiohead have ever done to an album, completely kills the flow of OKC for me. I also agree that Lucky->The Tourist is a pretty limp ending for the album.
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#6
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:06 PM
#7
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:14 PM
#8
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:26 PM
#9
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:29 PM
#10
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:39 PM
Last month, my band did a tribute concert playing the whole of OKC. The crowd was loving it until No Surprises, but we felt the mood kind of died down during Lucky and The Tourist.
About HTTT, Thom and Ed have said that it should have been better edited. If they meant that the album should've had less songs, I would agree, but still it is my 2nd favorite album because the songs are beyond amazing (IR is first).
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#11
Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:14 PM
get out of this place(shitty opinions)
#12
Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:21 PM
TKOL is one of the worst RH albums both in terms of songs and its structure as an album, although I do quite like the tension/release thing they did.
lolwut indeed, Mr. James.

#13
Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:46 PM

#14
Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:53 PM
#15
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:25 PM
#16
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:52 PM
lolwut?
TKOL is one of the worst RH albums both in terms of songs and its structure as an album, although I do quite like the tension/release thing they did.
Fitter Happier is the worst thing Radiohead have ever done to an album, completely kills the flow of OKC for me. I also agree that Lucky->The Tourist is a pretty limp ending for the album.
Kid A and In Rainbows are more or less perfect structurally, although I would have liked the first few seconds of IR to sound different.
HTTT is a mess but that's kind of the point isn't it?
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im gunna fight you
#17
Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:11 PM
#18
Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:37 PM
#19
Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:37 AM
I don't think the arrangement of 'Motion Picture Soundtrack' on Kid A works. That bit that I always describe as sounding like "glitter" seems to have noises thrown in simply because the album is full of noises. I also don't really feel as though its addition adds anything of note to the record as a whole. I think they ruined that song, and the acoustic demo is a gajillion times better. And it has the "beautiful angel...." verse *sigh*
'an album full of noises'..
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anyway, basically you're wrong. it's probably the most beautiful, perfect album closer of all time. if you honestly can't see what those 'noises' are adding to the song conceptually then you're completely missing one of the fundamentals of Kid A as an album and sequence.
#20
Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:49 AM
you're obviously skipping the bends because it is almost kida-esque perfect in structure minus the lull of bulletproof
Yeah, I had no idea what to say about The Bends. Hey, it's a nice album!




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